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Hi all,
I am on voices.com and I have been very happy with them so far. I have really gotten some wonderful opportunities through them and I was thinking about voices123. Anybody do both and if so which do you prefer? Love the plant the seed idea! Its a great followup and a way to turn a negative into a positive.
Dan,
Your "plant the seed" idea is a great way to leverage each client contact for possible future business. I'm going to add it to my template.
Thanks.
This post should probably be loaded as a discussion folder, but since we’re talking about this here, I’ll go ahead and post it here. Sorry about the length.
There are at least two ways to look at P2P sites – at least at the ones that do generate a lot of requests for auditions.
First of all, some people see such sites as a job source. Sort of an agent substitute. And frankly, with the way some agents these days don’t work that many exclusive leads, and just simply take leads off of voicebank and farm them out, P2P sites are actually a better deal. At least you’re dealing with the person that made the request for the auditions.
Which leads me to the second way to look at a P2P site: a lead source. This is the approach that can really make P2P sites work for you. There are very few P2P jobs that I audition for that I’m just positive I’m going to get. But I never, never audition for a job without planning to make a mark for future business. In fact, in the accompanying note that I write to the client, I ask them if there are any other jobs they have coming up that I might be a good fit for. I want to plant that seed and grow that crop.
Does that approach work? YES! I haven’t done the numbers on it, but I can guarantee you that I have at least as much work, if not more from those clients for jobs they never post, as I do for clients that award me jobs that they post on P2P sites. And as I’ve mentioned before, those jobs that I land from P2P sites account for about 10% of my income. So at least double that (and it's probably more than double) to account for jobs that come from connecting with those P2P clients.
A case in point: just today a client from Germany that I auditioned for a few months ago on Bodalgo (that I didn't get), contacted me directly and gave me a very nice job.
With jobs received **just today** from V123 I've more than made back what I invested to be on the site (and the site subscription is tax deductible).
When I get a job from any P2P site, I'm sure to make that client my friend and to be memorable (in a good way). With very little else for the past several years besides V123 I'm earning enough to quit my "day job".
Others have been quite successful with other P2P sites and if you're serious about VO they won't be your only avenue, but I believe every VO person (except maybe Cip or Beau) should have at least one P2P site in his/her pocket.
Welcome Stan!
I do not like any pay to play sites. I have a free listing with Bondalgo, as soon as I entered all of my info for my free profile, I immediately got emails saying that there were matches to my profile, but to audition for them you have to be a premium member. I do not feel they are worth my time, or money.